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#41986 - 06/02/05 12:30 AM Marijuana testing [Re: Paladin]
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Can they tell the difference between a man and woman's urine? When you give a drug test?
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#41987 - 01/13/06 04:18 AM Re: Marijuana testing [Re: hadmyfun]
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Please only post the question in one forum, posting it multiple places in random threads does not help you get a response any more quickly.

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#41988 - 01/25/06 08:28 AM Re: Marijuana testing [Re: hadmyfun]
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Bump... may need this info soon.

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hadmyfun said:
Can they tell the difference between a man and woman's urine? When you give a drug test?


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#41989 - 01/28/06 06:44 AM Re: Marijuana testing [Re: hadmyfun]
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short answer: no, one cannot tell the gender of the person's urine on any standard urine test.

long answer: well, it's scientifically possible, but would be extremely expensive and/or serendipitous. if a female is pregnant she excretes beta hCG hormone in her urine, which is what is tested for in pregnancy tests. if you happen to be a pregnant female then yes, one could test for this and a positive result would indicate a female gender. it is also theoretically possible if they happen to collect white blood cells in the urine (which shouldn't be there unless you have a urinary tract infection or if the sample is not mid-stream but rather first stream), collected the DNA, separated out the chromosomes, and searched for X- and Y-chromosomes. this would be inordinately expensive and time-consuming, and absolutely no urine test does this. but it is scientifically feasible.

again, short answer: no.
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#41990 - 01/30/06 11:52 PM Re: Marijuana testing [Re: kennyg]
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#41991 - 02/06/06 06:06 AM Re: Questing Regarding MDMA [Re: StlDnB]
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Hey everyone, I haven't been here in years but back when I was really in the scene this was the place to come for straight answers. My girlfriend took E for the first time in almost a year over new years(about40 days ago). She consumed less than one pill, about 3/4 of a pretty good pill(blue speckled omegas). She recently applied for and was accepted to a job in the casino industry but must face this test. She hasn't done any other drugs recently, just the E over new years.

I've scoured the internet but haven't really been able to find an honest answer about whether or not any number of these shampoo products sold actually work to pass a hair follicle drug test. Erowid has a lot of great info but they admit they are unsure if these products work or nto. The drug test sites insist that their hair follicle tests are tamperproof to such products while every site trying to sell the shampoo says its 99% effective, someone is lying. I suspect a lot of the shampoos are scams trying to capitalize on the drug-using market while some may actually work.

Any help would be great appreciated. She is very stressed about it and I feel party responible because I was the one who got it and pushed us into using it. Thanks.


You should have her wear a wig that look really real. Like one of those ones that has a headband attached, so you can't tell that the hair line is fake. You can get ones that are made of real hair. etc.......Check out eBay. She can even get her own hair color.

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#41992 - 02/15/06 03:14 AM Re: Questing Regarding MDMA [Re: laurarene]
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At close range, its pretty easy to tell if someone is wearing a wig because of the netting, but that was one of the funniest things I've read on here lately.
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#41993 - 02/26/06 03:56 AM Re: Marijuana testing [Re: kennyg]
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Just so that we're 100% clear. There is no way in hell that anyone can ever, under any circumstances, 'tell' a person's gender through that person's urine.

Whether a person is a male or a female is not a question of that person's "gender".
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#41994 - 03/02/06 07:46 AM Re: Marijuana testing [Re: olderguy]
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true. what you can tell is a person's genetic sex. that's all. however, i think this is what the question was asking.
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#41995 - 12/06/06 11:29 PM Re: Marijuana testing [Re: kennyg]
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Might want to put something in here about Saliva based tests.. as they are becoming more prevailent.. and cannot be adulterated.

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#41996 - 12/07/06 10:01 AM Re: Marijuana testing [Re: Bryan]
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Might want to put something in here about Saliva based tests.. as they are becoming more prevailent.. and cannot be adulterated.




As requested

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#199598 - 05/03/08 10:05 PM Re: Valium testing [Re: Purple_Princess]
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i have a friend who is getting a hair folicle test done in about a week or two.he tells me he has'nt smoked any weed in about two months,but has taken some pills(not exactly sure but i think it was a oxy or a perk).i seen at the top of this page that people with blonde hair dont retain tracebles as long as dark haired people do.the test is going back 60days.how worried should he be and are there any steps he can take to help pass.any info on this matter would be highly appreciated.

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#199651 - 05/07/08 06:53 AM Re: Marijuana testing [Re: Bryan]
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 Originally Posted By: Bryan
Might want to put something in here about Saliva based tests.. as they are becoming more prevailent.. and cannot be adulterated.


Just like Urine tests there has to be a certain amount of measurable drug in the salive for it to count as a positive test... There are cut-off points for urine testing where it has to be detectable at a level higher than a previously set amount to qualify as positive.

If a person drinks a ton of water and dilutes their urine to the point that there isnt enough metabolite to test positive its possible to test clean (I have seen a daily smoker take a test at a hospital lab 5 hours after smoking a bowl and she pissed clean because her urine was so dilute)... Some places if your urine is too dilute it throws off the specific gravity and they make you repeat the test, other places only test for the drug and dont test the specific gravity, depends on where you live...

Anyway same thing for saliva testing, has to be high enough that its higher than a preset amount to come up positive... Dilute your saliva and you could theoretically pass the test...

Say you were to suck on a lime or something shortly before taking the test or eat something sour, it would make your salivary glands release a lot more water which may dilute it enough to make you pass.

It's never a sure thing, but I have a friend that tested negative because she took one of those little dropper bottles you can buy at gas stations that have really sour liquid in them, and put a few drops in her mouth prior to the test when they werent looking and she passed.

The only sure way to pass is to give body enough time to get rid of the drug...
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#199655 - 05/07/08 08:24 AM Re: Marijuana testing [Re: slaker]
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As far as I know salvia isn't scheduled yet, so what would be the fallout of droopin dirty?

If the person being tested is on parole, probation, pissing for any other court ordered deal, or DUI, then yeah it would matter, but if it's for a job, what can they do. It'd be like a 21 year old droppin dirty for alcohol. Maybe the employer would think twice about hiring them, but as long as it's not scheduled they can't do much else.
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#199681 - 05/09/08 09:02 AM Re: Marijuana testing [Re: slaker]
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They are doing saliva testing a lot here in Utah, it is almost as common as urine testing...

I got popped for a BS possession of marijuana ticket a little while back (it wasnt actually my bag it was my friends but I took the fall for it because it would be my first drug related offense ever and he would have gone to jail) and I pled guilty so they would let me do the plea in abeyance...

I have to be randomly tested on a weekly basis for 6 months and if I dont ever test dirty the charge will be dropped... But they do both urine and saliva (I dont know if the saliva is for marijuana or heroin... they saw tracks on my arms and I told them I had a problem with it but I was clean now, they tested me and I really was clean... I told them my DR had me on oxycontin for 8 years and then took me off it without giving me anything... i didnt get suboxone or any benzo's just clonidine which I cant take, so i turned to heroin and I was going into medicine so I had to get off it) it may be that the urine is for marijuana and the saliva is for heroin...

They call it random drug testing but so far its been 5 weeks and I have been tested 5 times and every single time its been on tuesday...
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